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I wanted to ask about the track “Perfect Celebrity.” It’s not often we get a pop song that’s so self-aware and so meta. Why did you want to write a track about grappling with fame, and how has your relationship with fame changed over the years? I was really nervous to put that song on the record. In a way, I was nervous to write it. It’s an angry song; I’m angry at myself. It felt like a song that had been inside of me for 15 years that I needed to get out. I’m still nervous for people to hear it. [My relationship with fame] has changed. When I was younger, I had this dream of being a star, building the stage shows of my dreams, and my music being heard everywhere. When I was younger, I was on a mission. Because my life changed so much when I was in my early 20s, it took some of the realness of life away from me, and that really changed my songwriting. Now, as I’ve gotten older, I value my artistry before fame. Having an amazing relationship now—closer friendships, more time with family, and a more grounded life—has helped my writing and helped me think about fame in a different way. But [“Perfect Celebrity”] still came out in the way that it did, and I didn’t want to change it too much. I felt myself judging myself while I was writing, but then I was like, nope—just be honest! Because I really wanted Mayhem to be honest in all of its craziness.Official Blink 182 Bored To Death Shirt
Songs like “Garden of Eden” and “The Beast”—these are songs that are undeniable dance hits. There’s been this conversation lately about “recession pop,”—the idea being that the best pop always comes out of the most challenging times. Was that something you thought of, bringing levity to your fans? I never could have anticipated what has happened in the world, even since my last two records. There was a global pandemic during my last record [Chromatica], and now we’re here. I don’t think it was something that I planned. Everything changed for me after the Fame Monster era: After that happened, my mission as an artist changed, and it became more about making people happy, and less about my personal mission as an artist. My personal mission became making the public smile as much as possible. So when I was making Mayhem, I wanted it to be a good time, and not all about me. It’s inspired by so much of my life—my dreams and my approach to music—but it’s also about honoring how complex people are, and that we can be chaotic. Because the world is chaotic. It’s only natural that we sometimes feel out of control. So while I did not plan for this to be recession pop, it is a feeling of mine when I’m making music: I want to be there for people.
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